After I first wrote about boomer shooters final 12 months on Steam Deck and likewise on Swap, except for New Blood and Nightdive, the most typical identify was Andrew Hulshult who has achieved some superb music over time. He lately was concerned with the DOOM + DOOM II re-release that included his IDKFA soundtrack with new music for DOOM II, and having needed to interview him for some time now, I lastly had an opportunity to talk with him on name for just a few hours to debate recreation soundtracks, composition, bands he likes, guitar strings, pickups, chilly brew espresso, his first movie soundtrack, video games he’s taking part in, and much more. This interview was achieved on video name after which it was transcribed and edited for brevity. Similar to my interview with Dave Oshry from New Blood, this one was extra informal than regular, and that is seemingly the longest interview on TouchArcade so strap in and seize a chilly brew.
TouchArcade (TA): So for these unaware, inform us somewhat bit about your self and what you do.
Andrew Hulshult (AH): Yeah, my identify’s Andrew Hulshult. I’m a composer and sound designer for primarily video video games, however I’m beginning to transfer over into movie as properly. I like to only write music on my own typically when it’s not for a recreation or movie. However that’s primarily what I do. I work within the recreation and movie trade doing sound design, soundtracks, and typically voice appearing.
TA: How did you find yourself engaged on the canceled Duke Nukem mission and likewise Rise of the Triad 2013?
AH: Duke Nukem 3D Reloaded was truly simply sort of like, I feel that was 2010. That’s, I’m reaching again right here somewhat bit. So I feel Frederik on the time, Frederik Schreiber, the man who runs 3D Realms now, or I feel he nonetheless does, principally he was remaking maps in the midst of Unreal Engine 3 of like a number of the unique Duke 3D maps and posting them on Gearbox boards, which I feel one among them that obtained quite a lot of hits was like the entire 3D renders of like Hollywood Holocaust, which is like E1M1 for Duke 3D. That caught my consideration as properly. I used to be like, wow, that appears actually neat. You realize, like I reached out on the boards, I used to be like, hey, do you want any music? Possibly this could be enjoyable. Like, I actually favored Duke 3D again within the day. And he stated, yeah, positive. You realize, like if you wish to remake a number of the stuff and hand it off to me.
So I simply did a few of that. I simply had gear laying round and I needed to sort of discover ways to do that anyway. So I simply dove in head first and began sort of remaking a number of the outdated Duke 3D tracks. That sort of spawned into, you understand, not rather a lot, not rather a lot was achieved in Duke 3D Reloaded. It was similar to, you understand, like some odds and ends stuff. In some way that was Apogee, Terry Nagy, head searching us and saying, hey, I’ve an IP that I’d actually such as you to work on referred to as Rise of the Triad in the event you guys wish to give it a attempt. And he had an investor with him on the time who was named Dave Oshry And this was a really very long time in the past. And it’s loopy. Like all these individuals now are like, you understand, on the, we have been all on the forefront of just like the retro FPS revival stuff.
However principally after Duke 3D Reloaded, yeah, Apogee got here, stated, hey, we’re . And Fred stated sure on our facet. And we began making Rise of the Triad 2013.
TA: It was humorous you talked about Dave Oshry as a result of after I lastly obtained an interview with him, I feel it was simpler for me to satisfy Iron Maiden than get that interview, however after getting that achieved, I had New Blood coated. I lately additionally interviewed Nightdive about The Factor, however I wanted to finish the trifecta for boomer shooters: Andrew Hulshult. Now that’s lastly taking place.
We each snigger.
TA: I keep in mind in a previous interview you probably did, you talked about how while you have been doing the 3D realm stuff, you weren’t conscious of how a lot you have been in demand within the trade. So when that door closed, out of the blue you had like a, like hundreds of alternatives and stuff like that. However, and clearly you’ve gone on to do a few of like some large titles since then. Clearly Doom Everlasting DLC is the one which lots of people take into consideration you. For me, it’s like different titles like Nightmare Reaper and Nightfall and stuff like that. I wish to know the way you’ve modified as a musician and as knowledgeable from again then to now.
AH: Oh, that’s a fantastic query. Man, beginning off within the trade with, you understand, doing the entire stuff with Interceptor, like the place we have been, what we have been simply speaking about, it was a totally recent expertise as a musician. So that you don’t know what you’re moving into. After which quite a lot of instances you’re like, I don’t even know what I must be getting paid, you understand, like you may have an concept, however you’re not, you don’t know. And so like wading by means of these waters is fascinating and likewise harmful territory. However the stuff that I’ve discovered has been all from, you understand, tripping on agreements as you go ahead. You signal an settlement, you go for it, you make the cash, and on the again finish you’re both like, this didn’t actually work out, otherwise you’re like, hey, this labored out, we have to guarantee that we do that once more, you understand.
It’s studying the whole time. As a result of that is the factor that I really feel like musicians get hung up on rather a lot, which is, you understand, they simply, they wish to make actually, actually superior, lovely artwork for video games. And like, there’s completely nothing improper with that. You need to, that must be the core precept that you just do. However it’s important to just be sure you receives a commission so that you could proceed to do it. As a result of in any other case you burn your self out and also you don’t wish to work within the trade anymore. And that, to return to what you have been speaking about with, I didn’t know the way a lot, like how in demand I used to be. I used to be proper at that time. I used to be about to stroll away from the whole lot proper after the entire stuff with 3D Realms. I used to be achieved with video games. I used to be like, you understand what, like there’s not quite a lot of avenues right here and I’m simply getting extra bitter as time goes on. And the final handful of issues I’ve labored on have simply bombed so why am I placing all this effort into this?
I ought to try to do one thing else. And I didn’t understand till I stepped out from 3D Realms how many individuals needed to rent me. And like, it’s a kind of bizarre issues the place like, I’m positive you may most likely relate. When you may have a job, like a day job, in the event you’ve ever simply held like a easy, easy day job, you will get sucked into that complete cycle of that job and nothing else issues round.
So an instance of this could be, I labored for a music retailer for about 15 years, okay. I used to be doing properly for them. They needed to offer me my very own shops. I used to be engaged on administration. And the cycle that comes with that the place you get so wrapped up within the enterprise of that makes you lose focus of numerous different issues in life. And that’s sort of what occurred to me whereas I used to be working with 3D Realms. That’s nothing unhealthy about them. It’s simply while you’re working for a corporation fairly than working for your self, it turns into that.
From the begin to now has been like only a loopy studying course of. You do need to stroll on landmines. You do need to get blown up a few instances till you determine what works and what doesn’t. Stepping out from 3D Realms after they stated, hey, we don’t have the money to pay you. It’s like, oh, okay, I assume I’ll go determine this out now. After which abruptly, DUSK, you understand, like that’s actually the subsequent factor that and AMID EVIL have been the very subsequent issues that I labored on. It was loopy.
TA: Clearly you get quite a lot of questions on recreation music, however what’s like, because you introduced up this entire factor about the way you’ve modified, what’s the largest false impression that folks each within the trade and just like the gamers have about video video games music proper now?
AH: The most important false impression. Oh, that anyone can do it and it’s a small half. laughs It’s like, you may’t simply throw something in there. Like, man, it’s I’d say that from a public like standpoint of I don’t play video games that a lot and I’m informal sort of factor, a few of my pals and a few of my household are like, you may have the best job. I’m like, you don’t have any f***ing concept. You realize, stroll in my footwear for a day and let’s discuss once more. Yeah, it’s actually tough since you, you actually need to trick your self into moving into no matter environment or no matter world another person has painted already. Proper. Like they’ve already constructed the whole lot out. That is their imaginative and prescient. You must step into it and it’s important to step into it with respect to their design philosophies. And also you additionally need to have the boldness to say, properly, that is what I feel we should always do and why we should always do it. And there’s quite a lot of, there’s quite a lot of social confidence that’s wanted to do a gig like this.
It’s complicated in quite a lot of other ways. The artwork facet of it’s arduous sufficient, like pulling shit out of skinny air, is tough already, however then, um, explaining to individuals why you wish to go this path and typically even arguing to get that path could be a trouble in and of itself.
So yeah, I’d say the largest false impression is that it’s simple and that it’s not simple. I swear to God, so many instances my pals are like, ah, you’ve obtained the best job. I’m like, no, man, I dwell, I, I threw 100 pound containers from 6 AM to 4 PM. And typically I miss that.
Whiskey and low fueled half of the @RiseoftheTriad OST. Most songs have been composed between 9pm and 3am.
The extra you understand
— Andrew Hulshult (@AndrewHulshult) September 30, 2015
TA: So I additionally wish to discuss rather a lot about your gear, however earlier than that, I feel we should always focus on a number of the recreation particular issues. So let’s begin with ROTT 2013. I’ve simply despatched you a tweet proper now, which I needed to reference. That is fairly an outdated one (linked above). Nicely, I truly didn’t know a lot about this soundtrack till lately. I had heard about it and I had heard that quite a lot of my pals purchased that launch. They stated that it wasn’t that nice. I performed the unique on DOS however not the 2013 model, so I didn’t actually hear all of it in-game till the Ludicrous Version and when people made a giant deal about it having Andrew Hulshult’s music. I made a decision I needed to correctly attempt it then. I needed to speak about your thought course of between like, you understand, redoing these tracks and developing with your personal flare on them, as a result of anybody who, a minimum of any fan of yours, in the event that they take heed to that, they comprehend it’s your music. It’s not like, oh, this is rather like him doing a canopy of another person. It nonetheless feels prefer it’s you.
AH: The initially factor was to ensure you respect your elders. I needed to guarantee that no matter I did clearly served the fanbase and by proxy served the whole lot that Lee Jackson had written. Lee Jackson and Bobby Prince, so far as I’m involved, that’s the de facto composers for FPS. The originators. You’re already entering into one thing properly established again within the day. Individuals are very acquainted with this. In the event you f*** it up, you might be toast. That was my first skilled gig. Moving into that sort of stress.
Simply actually what it got here to, it was all actually pure. I heard these songs and I noticed the sport and what they’re making and I’m like it’s kinda jank, however it’s enjoyable. It’s ridiculous. ROTT is so ridiculous. I used to be like man, I used to be speaking to Dave and Fred about it. What if we did like rock and steel stuff predominantly? That’s the sort of music I take heed to on a regular basis. They stated let’s attempt it. Even Terry was like it is best to do it.
Actually they simply kinda gave me free reign to offer it a attempt on a few of these issues. The primary one I did as a demo to work on it was “Goin Down the Quick Manner” and I keep in mind I handed that to Terry. Terry is superior and he has been nice to me for my complete profession. By no means had a nasty piece of recommendation from him. He’s the CCO for Apogee by the way in which. I keep in mind handing him the very first demo of “Goin Down the Quick Manner”. His remark coming again to me was “It’s in the correct path nevertheless it appears like a diarrhea of sound” As a result of it wasn’t combined appropriately. I used to be simply excited at hand him one thing. I used to be like okay that is a kind of moments the place I’m going to need to discover ways to settle for suggestions even when it isn’t from a musician and I do know that they imply properly. I remixed a few issues and I feel that is what he was speaking about and I despatched it again to him and he stated it was means higher and it was superior. Okay cool, this man doesn’t simply hate me.
It sort of simply got here from the center. All of the soundtracks I work on, it’s me. Even whether it is entering into another person’s footwear, I’ve to keep in mind that the supply materials comes first, then you definitely put your influences on. So the supply materials is the construction of the home however you may put up no matter partitions you need and paint on it, and dangle and enhance, however simply guarantee that the home continues to be the identical home that folks keep in mind.
Now to handle the Tweet above, Whiskey and low fueled half of the Rise of the Triad soundtrack. Most songs have been composed between 9 p.m. and three a.m. That’s true. Right here’s one little tidbit with it too. Terry Nagy, the man I used to be speaking about, the CCO from Apogee, he would usually take me right down to a bar referred to as Hula Arms. And he would purchase the drinks after which he would simply take me house and be like, “Alright, now go write some extra songs.” It was superior. I miss these days.
TA: This jogs my memory of that one observe in IDKFA the place you used a tremolo to copy a particular sound and it was the right method to do it.
AH: That was Darkish Halls in DOOM. It has the tremolo guitar that’s presupposed to be the rolling bass synth from that sound. I like that music.
TA: After ROTT 2013, one other recreation I didn’t actually play till lately was Bombshell and I actually solely purchased that recreation due to your soundtrack. I obtained it after I was researching boomer shooters for an article and was wanting on the video games I don’t personal. I purchased it and didn’t actually look after a lot of it, however the music was nice. I sort of consider that soundtrack with Nightmare Reaper the place they really feel like simply steel albums from Andrew Hulshult fairly than devoted recreation soundtracks. Was this the purpose in your profession the place you realized you’re actually good at bringing steel into these sorts of video games? It felt like a turning level.
AH: That’s that’s a fantastic query too like truly yeah like proper round that point I used to be experimenting rather a lot with simply you understand making large atmospheric like synth stuff and like orchestral as you may hear on that soundtrack in the event you obtained far sufficient, laughs, but in addition like for the for the larger fights and stuff, I actually needed to start out dialing up you understand my very own sound and my very own writing and you understand I’d already achieved the quilt stuff I needed to wish to present individuals what what I may do and so yeah that’s sort of actually the place my introduction to love my very own unique items began coming into place, so yeah that’s truly proper. I by no means even considered that that’s the place that began and likewise like I imply I gosh that’s if I give it some thought, that was 2013 is the tip of 2013 is when growth began on that, and it initially began as a Duke Nukem recreation earlier than the lawsuit, and I had an eight string by that point. I used to be tuning down large time at that time, and there’s quite a lot of stuff that by no means made it possibly I’ll put that up on Twitter in some unspecified time in the future however there’s quite a lot of stuff that by no means by no means confirmed up on it as a result of it was somewhat too aggressive you understand however that stuff would later present up in DOOM you understand. laughs
TA: When simply discovering your music a few years in the past, the whole lot was actually good steel, and this was most likely across the time I used to be primarily listening to steel earlier than I began broadening my horizons. I went by means of this section after I was studying guitar and I began listening to extra Dream Theater after which obtained a seven string guitar, and finally obtained into Meshuggah. It obtained me occupied with how after I take heed to your music now, you handle doing distinctive issues for every recreation and make the songs match the sport correctly. It isn’t simply steel anymore so there’s no fear about being typecast. Did you may have that worry that everybody is simply going to count on steel from you while you’re behind a particular soundtrack?
AH: Oh man. You simply saying that simply out loud makes me wow. I nonetheless fear about that typically. There are moments the place I’m like am I getting typecast at this level, and also you saying, yeah I don’t have to fret about that anymore, I’m like oh thank god I heard it from another person the place they have been you understand like, as a result of I don’t wish to be like I don’t wish to be like straight up often called steel man you understand like I like steel I like taking part in it I’ll make these data all day lengthy as individuals so long as individuals will take heed to it and even when they gained’t I’ll most likely make them, however yeah I like to color with completely different brushes like particularly after I become old, like I actually get pleasure from mixing sound design with guitars.
I like mixing sound design with orchestral devices, I like simply going full hand on my Eurorack synth stuff over right here and simply getting misplaced. As a musician I’m lucky sufficient at this level the place I can simply experiment, and I do know I can discover, I’ve the boldness now after engaged on all these video games and having some success with it the place I do know if I get misplaced I can discover a means out as a result of I’ll discover one thing that I like, and chances are high if I prefer it, I can most likely present it to some individuals who will dig it as properly. I’m so glad to listen to that you just’re like I do know that I can get some selection. laughs
TA: I imply if somebody simply heard DUSK and I’d say in the event that they heard DUSK even that’s fairly completely different. I imply if somebody’s not into steel possibly they suppose nightfall sounds the identical as bombshell however you may completely inform that DUSK was making an attempt to be like this center floor of what you want and 9 Inch Nails’ Quake. I feel it has one among my favourite guitar tones in gaming proper now, and it’s nonetheless fairly timeless. I wish to transfer to AMID EVIL. I like the soundtrack to the primary recreation, however I wish to ask concerning the DLC for 2 causes. Now the very first thing is sort of like a private subject as a result of I imagine you have been going by means of a household emergency through the time while you have been recording the soundtrack, proper? After I was taking part in Dragon Quest VIII on the 3DS and my grandfather was within the hospital earlier than he handed away, every time I take into consideration Dragon Quest VIII now it jogs my memory of that. So do you undergo the identical factor with the AMID EVIL DLC music?
AH: I don’t suppose I’ve been in a position to sit down and digest it that means but. However I do know precisely what you’re speaking about and I’m positive that’s what I’ll completely undergo. Yeah, to harp again to what you’re speaking about, to what you’re referencing, my father had a coronary heart assault. And it was simply out of nowhere. And it was on, gosh, I feel it was on New Yr’s Eve. It was like 9 PM on New Yr’s Eve. It was the 12 months earlier than it was launched And I used to be midway, I used to be like halfway by means of engaged on that soundtrack. And it simply scared the shit out of me. As anyone would. Your father’s dying And he ended up having like a, all 4 valves round his coronary heart have been like 90-95% clogged. So yeah, he needed to have a quadruple bypass. And fortunately, We now have a very, actually good coronary heart hospital proper subsequent to us. And so they’re at an age now the place they’re on Medicare. I feel it’s Medicare. I can’t keep in mind. It’s like when you’re previous 64 at a sure age on this nation, you will get on Medicare. And you understand, like well being stuff isn’t as a lot of a nightmare because it usually is. However they obtained nice care, obtained taken care of. But it surely was months.
It took months for all that stuff to occur. And there’s like so many issues that occurred in between that. Like this was proper in the midst of COVID. So like every time he obtained, it was proper in the midst of the large Omicron spike for the world. In order quickly as he obtained admitted, he couldn’t get to an precise emergency room. He needed to sit in one other room for like two or three days and so they truly needed to sedate him for just a few days earlier than they might switch him to a different hospital to get checked out. Prefer it was simply loopy. And I used to be out of my thoughts. I used to be loopy at that time. And so as soon as they obtained to some extent the place they stated we’re going to do surgical procedure and he got here out of surgical procedure, I simply wanted one thing to occupy myself. In any other case, I used to be going to self-destruct.
So I began writing rather a lot on the AMID EVIL stuff and began actually discovering that outdated like taking part in with a band and writing songs for you sort of vibe getting in. And quite a lot of that stuff in a AMID EVIL, the stuff that’s like obtained quite a lot of power behind it, that’s fairly private for me. There’s quite a lot of feelings on that soundtrack. There’s additionally one thing else that I haven’t talked about in public but and I’m not going to speak about it right here that I began engaged on that has quite a lot of that as properly. And that’ll nonetheless be some time earlier than that pops up. However I’d say that that was my fundamental outlet for some time. You might have one thing to stay up for.
However yeah, like that soundtrack let’s wrap it up. That soundtrack did have quite a lot of pressure and quite a lot of feelings tied to my father virtually passing away and me making an attempt to wrap my head round that. You’re proper. I hadn’t considered that.
TA: The opposite factor concerning the AMID EVIL DLC is that this particular music I wish to contact on: Splitting Time. This music is fascinating for just a few causes. It jogs my memory of a few of my favourite recreation trailers just like the music used within the Nioh 2 launch trailer, I’m unsure in the event you’ve seen it. However extra fascinating than that’s I used to be taking part in Avenue Fighter 6 with a buddy of mine and listening to this within the background and he requested me if I used to be listening to Killer Intuition music? I stated it was the AMID EVIL DLC and he needed to know who made it. It jogged my memory fairly a little bit of Mick Gordon’s non DOOM music. We spoke about Killer Intuition and my buddy stated “they need to get Andrew for a brand new Killer Intuition album” and I needed to ask if Killer Intuition influenced that music?
AH: No I didn’t truly. However there is perhaps little hints of that backwards and forwards as a result of gosh, there are moments after I went again to that Killer Intuition reboot as a result of I believed Mick did such a fantastic job on it. The place I’m like, man, the manufacturing right here is strictly what I’ve been making an attempt to do for like a handful of years, And like that soundtrack was simply actually inspiring to take heed to. I feel he’s simply, he’s an excellent composer.
TA: That’s one other recreation I purchased due to the soundtrack as a result of after I performed DOOM 2016, I used to be like I must play extra video games with this man’s achieved the music for and everybody was like Killer Intuition. I used to be like I’ve by no means heard this. I didn’t personal an N64. What the hell is that this recreation? I purchased it and favored the music much more than the sport.
AH: That entire soundtrack slaps, man. He did a improbable job on that.
Whenever you understand @AndrewHulshult put his entire bussy into the Nightmare Reaper OST as a substitute of saving it for DUSK 2 pic.twitter.com/tU1AsySok0
— Dave @ House (@DaveOshry) October 11, 2023
TA: OK, so now let’s go to Nightmare Reaper a bit. I already talked about how this might be your personal steel album. I don’t even suppose it must be associated to this recreation. And that is one other recreation I simply purchased as a result of the music was so good. And I used to be like there’s sort of like this disconnect between what I anticipated within the recreation and after I heard the music, as a result of I heard the music earlier than taking part in the sport and I used to be like, OK, I must get used to this. However so earlier than I ask you about your thought course of between doing the music, I wish to simply convey up this different tweet (linked above) from New Blood’s Dave Oshry, which is fascinating for Nightmare Reaper. After I noticed that Tweet, I knew I needed to convey it up every time I interviewed you sooner or later and right here we’re.
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AH: Each time Bruno reached out to me, Bruno is the developer of Nightmare Reaper. Each time he reached out to me, we simply actually began speaking about a few of our favourite bands and we’d simply go off backwards and forwards as a result of he confirmed me a recreation that he was making. I used to be like, “That appears cool.” I used to be like, “Nicely, let me know in the event you’re ever .” After which we simply began speaking about music. He’s like, “Would you be enthusiastic about working with me on this?” And I stated, “Yeah, I feel that may be cool.” And he actually was like, “I simply need this to be like a steel document from you.” I used to be like, “Actually?” He was like, “Yeah.” He’s like, “You’ve obtained good influences.” He’s like, “I simply need it to sound such as you simply made a straight steel document.” I used to be like, “Nicely, it might probably’t be simply that.” I used to be like, “But it surely’ll be largely that.” You continue to want to love, we have to, it must nonetheless be for a recreation. As a result of in any other case you’d have me, you understand, screaming over prime of the whole lot as properly.
However yeah, it’s fairly near one thing I might have written at the moment. You realize, as you go together with a, as time strikes on, tastes change. And you understand, however like at the moment, for positive, that’s what you’ll have gotten for a steel document. I feel that’s fairly shut, yeah.
TA: How do you handle doing that and likewise preserving the soundtrack dynamic for a recreation then?
AH: Um, play by means of it quite a lot of instances the place you may determine the place you may have rests and lulls. And the place any person’s gonna presumably simply stroll round and search for issues. After which attempt to write one thing that you just your self wouldn’t get tired of. And that’s nonetheless fascinating by way of like, you understand, like an ambient observe or like a low power observe that also strikes somewhat bit. Simply music to discover to, proper? After which try to make a chunk that enhances what that’s, however is tremendous excessive power or, uh, simply larger power for it. So like, in order that these two can work collectively. You actually have to think about it as like, you’re gluing two or three completely different items collectively. As a result of like Prodeus has like three items.
It has an ambient, it has a light-weight fight, and it has a heavy fight. And so they’re structured in triggers all through that recreation. So I’ve to think about how this ambient works with this low fight music after which work with this excessive fight music. Or this heavy fight music. And do all of them transfer properly between one another, um, in the event you have been to only crossfade them at random instances, you understand? As a result of that’s what the engine goes to do. So yeah, it’s like, I don’t know, you simply, you gotta take a kind of items of music, construct it out first, after which take into consideration the opposite piece.
TA: Because you introduced up Prodeus, that was the subsequent recreation I used to be going to ask about. I don’t even keep in mind what occurred with Prodeus when it launched on Steam, as a result of I keep in mind being despatched a code for it and simply tried it out for assessment, however was blown away by the music. I keep in mind I even joked about that when I wrote about boomer shooters. On the time, it felt like the whole lot boomer shooters was all about New Blood, Nightdive, and Andrew Hulshult. So Prodeus appears like steel, industrial, bass heavy, and punchier basically. It really works properly with the aesthetic however I feel Cables and Chaos is my favourite. You’ve spoken rather a lot about Prodeus, however I needed to know what your favourite observe is from that and whether or not you may give us an fascinating anecdote from composing which individuals won’t find out about?
AH: Cables and Chaos is unquestionably my favourite one. Like, for positive. Like, that was the second. Um, so, like, they initially solely needed me to work on, like, the music that first shipped. Not lots of people know that I went by means of, like, this entire nightmare the place I needed to pull the whole soundtrack down throughout the whole, like, all this digital distribution and put it again up with all of the songs as a result of initially there was solely, like, ten items of music with Prodeus. After which after they have been getting nearer to launch they have been like, “Hey, we wish to… we wish to… we wish, like, ten extra.” And I used to be like, “Oh, uh, okay. Nicely, I’ve already put out the soundtrack.
We already agreed on this, so that is bizarre.” So, um, they confirmed me what else they have been engaged on by way of, like, the degrees and the whole lot that I hadn’t seen and I used to be like, “Good lord, these look unbelievable!” So I obtained actually impressed with that and made a ton of actually simply extra aggressive items of music which was issues like Chaoscaster, Cables and Chaos, uh…I’m simply making an attempt to think about the opposite ones. Dystopian Dimension.
That entire soundtrack is superior. Like, that entire soundtrack, like, it was inbuilt an fascinating time the place it’s…it was… half of it was pre-pandemic and the opposite half was throughout isolation throughout pandemic. So, it’s obtained these actually fascinating tangents of, uh, the second half of the document’s far more aggressive than the primary half. Simply because, like, I don’t know, I used to be at house and I’m like, I can’t get something out. Like, by way of my outlet, I can’t exit. I can’t do that. So, like, all of my power was targeted on how aggressive can I make the remainder of this, you understand? Like, after which we lastly get to place it out. I feel that was 2022.
Right here’s one factor from Prodeus that I believed was tremendous neat. So, Spent Gas is without doubt one of the solely instances that I’ve been…Nicely, it was one of many first instances I’d achieved it in the mean time. The place I’d taken an concept and I used to be like, how do I write an idea round this? And actually, like, the map they confirmed me was simply, you understand, inexperienced sludge and radiated bullshit in every single place. It regarded like Chernobyl. And, um…I used to be like, man, I actually wish to discover methods to take issues like Geiger counters, uh, and, uh, pulses from, from, uh, from fission reactions and, like, possibly even the sound of the, uh, the flash that occurs within the video every time they’re testing the atomic bomb stuff. Like, something that’s gamma or uh, radiation that’s audible, I wish to take that and make a chunk of music with it. So, there actually are all of these issues in that piece of…that piece of music. So, there’s the sound of a nuclear reactor turning on, doing what’s referred to as a pulse, uh, for the primary time. And that’s truly utilized in a part of the beat. The Geiger counters used as parts of the beat that sort of appears like a drum machine somewhat bit.
I reversed the sound of, uh, the atomic bomb, the preliminary flash hitting the digicam, making this “bzzz” sound. I reversed that and made it pulse backwards and forwards by means of the beat. After which, you understand, afterward the music is like quite a lot of guitar stuff to go together with it and the whole lot, however all that stuff that’s happening with the synthesizer is all based mostly round, you understand, like radiation. And I used to be like, “Ah, that is cool!”
Each time I obtained achieved with it, I used to be like, “Lastly!” I had an concept, like an idea concept for a chunk of music that stems from like an actual life factor and put all of it collectively. In order that was like, that’s one of many standout moments for me on that soundtrack. I used to be actually pleased with that.
TA: Are you able to say something concerning the DLC music or is that simply as much as the devs for them to launch?
AH: Uh, that’s as much as the devs for them.
TA: Something that’s completely different or fascinating or ought to we simply count on one other banger soundtrack?
AH: I’m unsure in the event that they’re going to make use of the bottom recreation stuff or if they need me to work on something new. I’ve my suspicions that they’ll give me a shout most likely someplace within the close to future, however I haven’t heard from them but.
TA: I feel in a latest interview the place you spoke concerning the Iron Lung soundtrack, which you’re doing, clearly you may’t discuss a lot about it, however I, don’t wish to know concerning the soundtrack particularly, I’ll look ahead to the film to come back out, however I wish to know three issues: How is it engaged on a film soundtrack? How is it working with Markiplier? How has the finances out there for the soundtrack modified the way you’re in a position to method music composition?
AH: So the primary one was, how’s it engaged on a film soundtrack? Fully completely different. Like, I believed that, I believed that I’d have the ability to stroll in and simply be like, “Eh, this gained’t, this’ll be easy.” Oh. Like, it’s simply as difficult as the sport stuff, however in a totally completely different path. The place I might know precisely to speak to a developer about “Let’s put a chunk of music right here, let’s put a chunk of music right here, let’s try this.” I can try this with Mark, however they’re utterly completely different conversations. One is, you understand, I do know precisely what’s presupposed to be taking place within the recreation right here, that is, you understand, you’re choosing up this weapon, otherwise you’re, this journey is going on in entrance of you, that is the tone. The opposite is a movie that I could get one thing out of, however Mark could also be intending for a special emotion. So now we have to speak about these issues backwards and forwards earlier than I make a chunk of music. So it’s actually fascinating. It’s a enjoyable problem, to be trustworthy with you.
The second was working with Mark? Mark is superior. He’s a lot enjoyable to work with. He hears issues that I don’t hear, uh, brings issues up in, in my very own music, the place I’m like, “Oh, I didn’t even take into consideration that.” And he’s very a lot, um, a musician with out, like, being a musician. Like, he doesn’t, he doesn’t write, like, so far as I do know, he doesn’t write a bunch of music, like, on the common, however he understands it very, very properly. And can, uh, usually make choices after I hand him a chunk of music, and he’s like, “Okay, that is, you understand, typically we must reduce these backwards and forwards, however I promise you, like, like, to make it work for a scene.” He’s like, “However I promise you, we’ll do it as finest as we are able to, or I’ll do it as finest as I can.” I’m like, “Uh, you understand, like, possibly I ought to simply recompose the scene.” And each time he cuts one thing to, like, presumably make it, like, a tiny bit shorter, I’m like, “No, that’s precisely what I might have achieved. Like, how are you this good at modifying these things?” Like, it’s, it blows my thoughts. Um, so he’s been improbable to work with.
The third is concerning the finances for the film soundtrack and the way it modifications the way it impacts composition? Budgets have been rather a lot greater. I’ll simply, I’ll simply preserve it at that. They have been, they have been, they have been a lot greater. Um, simply due to how a lot, it wasn’t, like, on account of, um, you understand, like, “Oh, you’re engaged on a movie now.” It was, it was due to how a lot music we went by means of. Um, I wrote demos with them on the set. So, like, they flew me right down to Austin and Mark stated, “Hey, you understand, why don’t you simply write music whereas I’m doing scenes?” I’m like, “Wow, that sounds truly actually, actually f***ing cool, yeah.” So, I might go down there about as soon as each two weeks and spend about two or three days there, simply sitting at, uh, sitting out entrance whereas they’re, they’re doing scenes, and I’d be writing music with my headphones, simply watching on a monitor, you understand, what’s happening in entrance of me, like, 50 ft in entrance of me. And so, there was a ton of music from that, and there’s much more music that got here afterwards that we wrote, and actually, um, I’m truly about to leap on a name as a result of I feel they want yet another, yet another piece of music.
I’m gonna bounce on a name in like two hours, ’trigger I feel they want yet another piece of music. Um, nevertheless it’s, it’s simply been rather a lot. There’s rather a lot there. And it’s choosing the feelings that go the place. So, like, there could be, I wrote all these songs for, you understand, um, catching a vibe of melancholy, and these songs for catching a vibe of anger, and these vibes for pressure, and this, and this, and now we have this big palette to only select from and choose the place we wish issues to go, and that’s what, that’s what Mark’s been doing. So, yeah, it’s, it’s just about, I imply, financially, the very same factor as, that I might agree on with video games, nevertheless it’s simply, there’s the amount that, like, we’ve achieved with stuff is like, whoa, that’s rather a lot! So, yeah.
So, yeah, it’s been nice. It’s helped me out a ton. I’d like to work with Mark once more after this.
TA: Going out of your first film soundtrack, let’s discuss your first chiptune album, which was Nightfall 82. So, was that truly the primary time you probably did any form of chiptune remixing or composition or association, I ought to say?
AH: Yeah, the primary actual one, like, I imply, like, you possibly can, you possibly can argue that, like, the Rad Rodgers stuff has a few of that on there, however that’s, like, nearer to synth wave greater than anything, I really feel like. And, like, that sort of retro really feel. So, yeah, this was the primary actual time that I, like, approached, like, a chiptune. Like, that is, it’s important to keep inside these boundaries of restricted expertise. And it was actually, like, you understand, select your, select your sine wave. Would you like, you need sine, or select your audio wave. Would you like sine, sq., or, you understand, triangle? So, it’s one of many three. Simply constructing, like, drum kits based mostly off of that and, like, white noise and the whole lot. And, yeah, that was, that was fascinating.
Like, when David approached me about that, I used to be like, “You wanna do what?” You realize, like, utterly make, like, the Nightfall soundtrack and chiptunes of, like, why don’t we simply, like, select a handful of, like, the hits and go from there. Like, those that folks keep in mind probably the most, you understand? And that was enjoyable. Uh, that was tremendous cool. Simply bouncing these backwards and forwards off Dave and David. However, yeah, that was, that was the primary time I ever did that. And it was, it was fairly cool. I’m glad individuals prefer it.
TA: I feel, uh, Nightfall 82 was, like, this free pre-order bonus with the Nintendo Swap launch. So after I began taking part in that, I used to be like, “Wait, did they really do that for the soundtrack?” After which I regarded it up and I’m like, “After all they did!” I do know clearly you’re, like, tremendous busy with, like, a ton of tasks, however in the event you had, like, limitless time and sources, would you do a chiptune demake of any of your different albums? And in the event you would, which one would you choose?
AH: Gosh. Which one could be probably the most fascinating is basically the, uh, the query there. I feel the one that may be probably the most fascinating if I have been to try this could be most likely AMID EVIL. As a result of there’s a lot happening in a few of these, it might be, it might be quite a lot of enjoyable to return and, like, hear a few of these melodies which can be, like, on, like, all string sections and stuff, and right here I’m taking all the way in which right down to, like, 8-bit, you understand? I feel that that may match rather well too. However yeah, if cash wasn’t a difficulty. Yeah, and time. Time’s the largest one there.
TA: Talking of money and time, I used to be going to ask you about remastering one among your outdated soundtracks, like bringing it to the fashionable Andrew Hulshult sound. You talked about that you just’d do ROTT 2013 in the event that they paid you to remaster it.
AH: There’s a ton of labor concerned in that. Doing that only for IDKFA was a ton of labor. Like, that was months of getting that collectively. Um, yeah, I’d love to try this for ROTT if Apogee could be enthusiastic about it, however, like, it’s a time factor greater than anything. I feel it’s a time factor for them, and it’s a time factor for me. I imply, they’re actually down the road, so, like, they’ll open up that dialog anytime they need, and it’s only a matter of when, you understand? When’s the correct time.
TA: WRATH: Aeon of Damage, I feel is a recreation you composed a very long time in the past, a minimum of in gaming, like, just a few years in the past, and it lastly launched this 12 months. That’s a soundtrack the place if anybody hears it, I feel they most likely wouldn’t count on it to be you after they take heed to the soundtrack, and that’s one of many issues I like about it, as a result of right here, like, he does extra than simply steel, like, you have to get that into your head, like, that appears like a kind of issues. How was it engaged on that soundtrack?
AH: It was fascinating backwards and forwards. Jeremiah, the developer on that, the unique developer, at first, I feel he’ll be okay with me saying this, at first we didn’t, we didn’t see eye to eye on issues, as a result of I needed straight up, like, virtually no guitar in any respect, Quake, Like, that is what you’re going for, that is the viewers, we have to harp even additional into this, and he needed some guitar combined in there, and like, we’d butt heads backwards and forwards on it fairly a bit, till we lastly got here to love a mutual understanding, and I began listening to him out somewhat bit extra, and he began listening to me out, and I used to be like, okay, okay, I feel we’re all good on this.
However yeah, it was, that one was somewhat, somewhat extra robust, simply because the, like, the event cycle was, wasn’t, you understand, as individuals know, like, didn’t, it didn’t go as nice, like, in direction of about midway by means of, possibly somewhat, even somewhat sooner than that, and I may see a few of that taking place in actual time, simply because I do know all these guys, so like, it was unavoidable.
In order that’s, that’s arduous to make artwork for when you understand that the product itself is having some issues. However I feel Christalynne Pyle did a superb job with wrapping the whole lot up in direction of the tip of it, which was a job in and of itself, for positive. However, I don’t know, there have been some bizarre concepts pitched on the market at one level, the place like, I feel Fred needed like, like straight up, like actually excessive steel tracks at one level. I feel they even had a trailer at one level the place I used to be like, this isn’t the tone of this recreation. I don’t know the place you guys discovered that music, however like, that is, this isn’t that.
However I’m glad that the whole lot in the long run was in a position to have some cohesiveness and, and meld collectively. I actually want that we had time to do some motion tracks, like, for that recreation. Like, I really feel like there are moments the place that would have, that would have been useful, but in addition on the identical time, that’s a giant what if. You realize, like, as a result of there’s two issues that it’s important to think about. Which is, that’s the Quake engine. It’s just like the OG Quake engine. You realize, what are the constraints that we’re working with right here? Can we dynamically swap music, and is it going to work properly, simply in addition to you’ve heard in different titles? And quantity two, um, would that take individuals out of it?
As a result of everyone remembers just like the OG Quake having like, you understand, each map had its music. Nicely, I say that. It was a disc operating that simply performed a bunch of music. However principally, each map had a music for it. So, yeah, there’s, there’s a handful of issues there. However I just like the soundtrack. I feel it’s cool. I feel it’s, it’s, it’s obtained some actually fascinating moments in it the place like, one among them the place I used to be, I simply stated, “F*** it, no matter. We’re gonna, we’re gonna bow a guitar by means of a bunch of pedals and see what that comes out like.” That’s one among my favourite items from that. I feel that’s in direction of the tip. However, um, yeah, it was somewhat little bit of a wrestle, however I’m glad I nonetheless went by means of it. I had enjoyable, and I feel that everyone that labored on it was fairly pleased with it by the tip.
TA: Now, DOOM Everlasting’s DLC. How did it really feel for you doing IDKFA and now doing official DOOM music? Like, it’s your soundtrack with David Levy? Did id Software program truly discuss to you about IDKFA beforehand?
AH: I do know that IDKFA was, was handed round that studio an entire bunch, trigger I, I’d get, um, DMs from folks that work there that at the moment are, like, I think about nice pals, the place they’d attain out in, like, 2015, and 2016, and, like, all the way in which again as 2014, the place they’d be saying, you understand, hey, I’m working at id proper now, I simply need you to know that I’m listening to your, to your music whereas I work, and I used to be at all times similar to, oh, holy cow, that’s loopy, you understand? Um, and I, you understand, way back to that, I used to be similar to, hey, in the event you ever, you understand, in the event you ever, in the event you ever want music, let me know, you understand? So, however, like, by no means, by no means, you understand, like, pushing like, the button or the boundaries, trigger like, I feel it was introduced that Mick was engaged on there in, like, 2015? Like, it was just like the 12 months earlier than, or one thing like that, after they actually began exhibiting a number of the music, and I used to be like, oh, they’ve, they’ve, they’ve obtained that dealt with, okay, cool. So, um, however I used to be at all times enthusiastic about, to find a, a method to work with that studio, trigger I like DOOM, and, like, it’s actually is, like, the core of my DNA eager to work in video games, is DOOM, and like, Duke 3D, um, so, yeah,
I at all times needed to work with them, and IDKFA, I kinda checked out virtually as a resume, like, I used to be like, I’m gonna put this on the market, if it will get well-liked sufficient, it’ll converse for itself, and it did precisely that, as a result of, uh, in, gosh, that was, that was proper at, like, quarter one, quarter two of 2020, when, after they approached me, I feel it was, truly it was, I feel it was quarter two of 2020, and stated, hey, we, uh, we’re able the place we’d like, we’d like music, the place we’d like music, and, uh, we’d like it shortly, and would you be as much as the duty for this? They totally have been, they knew what they have been asking was, was a tall order, in a brief time period, and so they stated, you understand, we are able to completely use the bottom recreation stuff, however we needed to a minimum of attain out and, and ask you, as a result of we, we really feel like we are able to belief you, trigger I, I’d made relationships with, with, uh, with Marty, some gentle ones with Hugo, with Chad Mossholder, their sound man, I knew all of these individuals by then, and, um, I used to be like, hey, you understand what, it’s, it’s like 35 or 40 days, f*** it, we, let’s do it, it was like, this appears like a problem, I’m completely up for it, and, you understand, I needed to preserve my composure the whole time, however within the inside I’m like, oh my god, you understand, like, I’m engaged on an official DOOM recreation, uh, and when, however once we obtained achieved with that, like, I don’t know, it’s a kind of bizarre moments the place you go, holy cow, we went from, uh, you understand, a mod mission, uh, all the way in which to the official factor, and it’s simply, it’s insane, it’s, it’s loopy, I preserve operating into these parts of my profession, I hope they by no means cease, there are, one thing at all times surprises me like that.
TA: I feel it’s protected to imagine that lots of people who let you know they love your music convey up Blood Swamps from DOOM Everlasting’s DLC. As a result of I feel each particular person I see on YouTube is like, everybody’s simply doing Blood Swamps, it looks like the preferred factor and all, and for you that’s most likely a bizarre feeling as a result of you may have this music which lots of people love or one thing which you’re actually pleased with, however you may’t stream it or purchase it legally. Are you able to touch upon that in any kind? What do you inform individuals who ask about shopping for your music from DOOM Everlasting’s DLC?
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AH: Nicely, Bethesda and id personal all that stuff, they paid me properly for it, so like I used to be joyful to do all that, um, that’s not like a bullshit PR factor, like, for actual, they took care of me. They personal all that, so you understand, in the event that they, in the event that they ever select to place that stuff out, that may be superior, I’d completely embrace it and get behind it with that, however typically studios try this, typically they don’t, and it’s simply utterly as much as their name, however I’ll let you know that they haven’t any drawback with you, you understand, grabbing it off YouTube or something like that, so try this to your coronary heart’s content material, throw it in your telephone, no matter you wish to do, they simply, they’re simply glad that you just just like the stuff, and so am I, to be trustworthy, however hey, hopefully someday we are able to get an official launch, like, that may be cool.
TA: Yeah, as a result of I’ve the DOOM 2016 vinyl soundtrack, and I’d like to have DOOM Everlasting music on vinyl as properly. Anyway that’s one thing I’ve been occupied with as a result of it’s most likely a tough state of affairs so that you can be in, as a result of individuals would who wish to assist you, like, clearly they’ll purchase DOOM Everlasting and purchase the DLC and stuff like that, nevertheless it’s an unlucky state of affairs for followers, is all, like, I’ll go away it at that.
AH: It’s not likely like a bizarre state of affairs in any respect. I’m completely okay with no matter, Bethesda and id wish to do with that, as a result of they have been utterly up entrance, they’re like, we’re gonna personal this, what we select to do with that’s…Yeah, yeah, and I used to be like, yeah, that’s high-quality, I simply wish to assist, I wish to make like, a cool DLC for everyone that’s caught at house, and I wish to write like, some kick-ass music for it. And, so there’s no emotions of like, you understand, oh, that is bizarre as a result of this isn’t out, or something like that.
I do know persons are gonna rip it out of the sport, I do know, like, so do they, and like, that’s high-quality. However, you understand, hopefully, I want to see an official launch someday, however that’s utterly as much as them, and I’ll respect no matter they wish to do, as a result of they’ve been nothing however superior.
TA: Now let’s simply discuss Blood Swamps for a bit, as a result of like, everybody loves the riffs and stuff like that, so, what was your thought course of in creating that music? Did they ask you to make one thing that match with the bottom recreation or let you know to only go wild and be Andrew with the music?
AH: They advised me to go wild and simply be me, which I used to be like, that felt fairly harmful to me, as a result of I used to be like, man, the, you understand, what’s established right here from Mick? I’m like, that’s fairly sturdy. Like, that’d be like any person strolling into one other DUSK soundtrack, you understand, like, for the Indie Shooter, after which being like, we’re gonna do all synthwave, you understand, like, no, that’s not how that works. You must serve what got here earlier than you. You must present respect to what got here earlier than you. And that’s actually vital for the followers earlier than anyone else. Doesn’t matter with an government producer, doesn’t matter with the musician, doesn’t matter with the artist. It’s for the followers. Like, it’s important to guarantee that no matter you’re going to do goes to, they’re gonna go, okay, cool, yeah, I perceive, you understand, why you selected this. So actually, for me, it after they have been like, hey, you simply be you, do no matter you need, what you suppose serves Doom the very best. I used to be like, properly, that’s a no brainer. I’m gonna, I’m gonna, you understand, I’m gonna supply some inspiration from 2016 and Everlasting, after which write what I might wish to write.
So, the colours that I’m portray with are acquainted, however the writing that I’m utilizing, what I’m utilizing to color, or the image I’m portray is completely different. So there’s some familiarity there. As a result of, you understand, like, Blood Swamps is kind of a bit completely different than stuff that you’d hear on 2016 or Everlasting. It’s somewhat bit extra, that is, uh, that is like virtually like a standard steel music. And like, in actual fact, uh, I keep in mind handing that over to Chad the primary time and him being like, “Oh, steel. Alright.” And I used to be like, “Actually? That’s like, you’re shocked. However, um, the, uh, it’s just a bit bit extra virtually conventional. However, um, yeah, there’s, like, it was good having David and Chad to bounce stuff off of. As a result of the place I might hand them one thing, like Blood Swamps was initially like simply guitar, simply, simply bass, and simply drums. And it began, I began including issues in at, uh, after speaking to, um, to Chad and David fairly a bit. The place they’d be like, you understand, “Have you considered any sound design stuff?” I’m like, “Nicely, what did you, you understand, what are you pondering? Present me the devices that you just’re working with and, you understand, like, let’s simply discuss stuff out.”
We’d have like hour lengthy conversations each single day. And we’d all simply be taught from one another. It was, it was so cool. However, yeah, like Blood Swamps comes from a degree, I simply keep in mind, I’ve to write down one thing that if that is the one DOOM recreation I work on, it needs to be simply, like, means on the market. Like, I’ve to, I’ve to, I’ve to only take my shot. And it has, I’ve to tear out the entire boundaries which can be like, “Hey, ought to I do that? Shouldn’t I do that? Who provides a f***?” Simply, simply simply write the quickest, most aggressive factor that you can imagine at this cut-off date, and we’ll go from there. And that’s what, that’s what Blood Swamps was. After which the whole lot else got here after it, I used to be like, “Okay.” It was like, “We will do various things now.” You realize?
TA: I feel you talked about the way you had just a few weeks to do the DLC soundtrack, however since you had the assist system of these two, it was all attainable in the long run. I feel you talked about that in one of many different interviews.
AH: Yeah, as a result of David was dealing with, like, on the primary DLC, he was dealing with the cutscene work, and he had his personal, like, stuff the place he was engaged on a boss, and a degree, after which I obtained these two ranges, so that they break up up the work evenly between us on each DLCs. And there’d be so many instances the place I’d name David or Chad and simply be like, “Hey, how are you doing at present?” You realize? And one among us could be like, “Oh my God, I don’t know the place to go.” You realize? And we’d simply discuss backwards and forwards, and someway we’d give one another concepts. It was magical. Like, it was loopy. Simply after speaking to David, if I had nothing in my head on what I ought to write, after speaking to David or to Chad, I’d be like, “I do know what I must do now.” It was cool.
TA: Going again to IDKFA a bit, you talked about how a lot work you needed to put into revisit and, like, Remaster the unique soundtrack. What did you concentrate on revisiting these songs? Like, did you are feeling like, you understand, possibly I ought to have achieved one thing otherwise? Or have been you want, “No, I’m pleased with this. I simply wish to protect it for followers of IDKFA.”
AH: Yeah, it was extra of a, it was somewhat tiny little bit of, “I wish to do issues somewhat otherwise.” However, like, I’m speaking to actually, actually small levels. It was extra about preservation than anything. And if one thing was being harmful whereas making an attempt to protect it, these have been the issues that I might attempt to remove. An instance of that’s there was quite a lot of compression on the unique IDKFA. Simply because I used to be nonetheless in my early 20s at that time, early to mid 20s at that time, mixing in an condo that isn’t, like, acoustically sound or something like that. So I’m making combine choices that aren’t the best, however nonetheless maintain up. Like, that album nonetheless sounds nice, however simply a number of the compression facet, like, on the grasp of it, is somewhat aggressive.
So after I went again this time round, I truly went by means of each single a kind of songs one after the other and simply gave it somewhat bit extra head room, somewhat bit extra respiratory room, in order that in the event you take heed to it sufficient instances, you’re not going to get, like, ear fatigue or one thing like that. That’s actually what I used to be involved about. And that’s the entire Doom 1 stuff from the unique IDKFA all obtained that therapy the place the brink has been raised just a bit bit in order that it sounds somewhat bit extra open and pure. And I changed a pair snares right here and there, and possibly like a kick drum and a bass, however they’re so small I nonetheless haven’t seen anyone discover them.
TA: You need to revisit Metallica’s St. Anger and do that for all of the followers.
AH: It’s unimaginable to repair that! laughs There’s been bands which have achieved that. I’ve re-recorded that complete document and I see it on YouTube now and again. I’m like that is… this could have been a cool document if it might have sounded okay, and possibly some construction modifications have been completely different, however yeah, it’s no matter.
TA: I feel when Metallica did Loss of life Magnetic, that they had the Guitar Hero Metallica stems which individuals used to combine it higher than the precise album. How does this preserve taking place?
AH: James attests to it. These guys are so large that they legitimately have ultimate say on the whole lot that they do. So every time they’re touring and you have already got Tinnitus and also you’re mixing in a tent, I keep in mind them speaking about “Yeah, no shit, the guitars are vibrant.” I used to be listening to mixes in a tent and making combine choices on the street. I’m like, “Oh, that makes much more sense now.” Like, oh my god. As a result of the Guitar Hero mixes do sound means higher.
TA: This jogs my memory of after I watched Deafheaven and the way superb they sounded dwell. You might have so many bands that launch albums with brickwall mastering ruining the sound of an in any other case good album. It’s a disgrace that some bands don’t get exterior assist for issues like mastering.
AH: Yeah, it’s…I imply I nonetheless do my very own mastering stuff so I’m the beginning and end with all my stuff however I completely get it every time I see a band that has a document that’s simply utterly smashed. I’m like, “Yeah.” If I used to be only a musician who actually knew how one can play guitar and that’s about it or actually knew how one can play drums and that’s about it, I perceive how this occurs. It’s only a bunch of fellows within the room going, “Louder! This must be louder.” laughs
TA: So that you revisited IDKFA’s unique DOOM 1 music, however you additionally did virtually an entire Doom II soundtrack. I feel there was one observe which was on YouTube or two tracks. Whenever you have been doing these new songs, how did it really feel for you as a result of now you’ve come to date forward as a musician and did you are feeling tempted to make it a contemporary Andrew Hulshult album versus making an attempt to be Doom II? How did you method that?
AH: Man. This entire IDKFA factor with id’s blessing has been an unbelievable expertise. It appears like I’m closing a chapter of my profession with the followers as a result of IDKFA is what obtained me so many roles and a lot recognition beforehand. Nicely, IDKFA and Rise of the Triad, however IDKFA was a giant one and I nonetheless get individuals which can be like devs that attain out which can be like, “I do know you from the DOOM stuff.” And I’m like, “What? DOOM Everlasting?” They’re like, “No, IDKFA. I performed that DOOM WAD.” And I’m like, “Oh my god.” So I nonetheless get jobs due to that. So every time I sat down… Each time Marty Stratton despatched me an e-mail a couple of 12 months and a half in the past to ask if I had time to take a seat down at QuakeCon final 12 months and discuss some issues, I used to be like, “Uh oh. One thing’s both gone terribly improper or he simply desires to hang around.”
So we sat down and he was like, “Hey.” He’s like, “I’ve an concept.” And I used to be like, “What’s that?” He’s like, “What if we offer you a license for the DOOM soundtrack for IDKFA so that you could put that out on the entire streaming platforms your self and do no matter you need and also you give us a license to do with what we’re engaged on, which was the DOOM and DOOM II remasters.” And I used to be like, “That sounds cool.” I used to be like, “I’d like to lastly get that out on official websites and the whole lot.” And he was like, “Oh, it’s superior.” He’s like, “I hoped you’d say that as a result of this could simply be so cool to have this as a selectable factor. Prefer to go from the Bobby Prince to this if individuals needed to.” And I used to be like, “Yeah.” And I’ve been doing that with soundtracks lately anyhow.
About midway by means of that entire factor, we have been simply buying and selling warfare tales concerning the trade and simply getting alongside. And I used to be having a blast. I used to be pondering, “Man, that is actually going to be closing a chapter in my profession.” I used to be getting somewhat emotional. I used to be like, “I’ll let you know what.” I used to be like, “I’ll do you one higher.” I used to be like, “Why don’t we end DOOM II and make it the actual deal?” Folks have requested for it ceaselessly. I’m like, “That will actually poke my viewers.” They’d be like, “Holy shit! Doom 2 is lastly completed!” And he was like, “In the event you’re up for it, yeah, completely.” He’s like, “We’ll get you a license for something that you just do on that as properly so that you could put that out as properly.”
So, yeah. It was…strolling into doing DOOM II was a lot enjoyable. Each step of the way in which. Adam Pyle, the man that labored with me on Quake Champions, was the man that I bounced all my mixes off of. He advised me in the beginning, he stated, “Hey, you understand, do no matter you need.” He’s like, “It’s you. It’s the explanation individuals wish to take heed to it, so I don’t actually have a lot of a say.” I used to be like, “Bullshit!” I used to be like, “You labored with me on Quake Champions. I’m going to bounce each combine that I do off of you, and I wish to hear suggestions from you.” It’s like, “I respect your opinion as a result of we obtained stuff like we did on Quake Champions as a result of we talked backwards and forwards.” So we did. I’d ship him… I’d end Working from Evil and ship it to him, and he’d go, “This sounds nice, or, you understand, like, what in the event you did this?” It was solely a pair instances the place he was like, “What in the event you did this?” I used to be like, “Oh!” They have been at all times cool concepts. However I actually respect Adam’s capacity to throw out issues now and again. He’s only a nice particular person to bounce mixes off of. So, simply doing these one after one other and attending to the tip of it.
As soon as it was all wrapped up, I’m not going to lie, as soon as it was all collectively, I used to be simply in my workplace and I used to be like, “Oh my god!” Having a second the place I had a grown man cry the place I used to be like, “I can’t imagine that that is taking place. I can’t imagine that, primary, I’m going to be a part of the unique DOOM in an official capability. Quantity two, they’re going to ask me to speak at QuakeCon, like, dwell on stage and announce the whole lot. And quantity three, they gave me a license for all these things in order that I can put it out and I can truly make some cash off of it. That doesn’t occur with a giant studio. They don’t simply go, “Right here’s the soundtrack. Have enjoyable.”
I don’t know. It’s simply nonetheless so loopy. It hasn’t actually sunk in for me nonetheless. I’m nonetheless in that bizarre spot the place I’m like, “Yeah, that is on the market. We’re selling it.” And as soon as that’s over, I’m positive I’ll be like, “Oh my god.” You realize, like, “Holy cow.” But it surely’s been enjoyable.
The DOOM II stuff, I needed it to be one thing somewhat bit extra recent on the place I’m at as an artist. I didn’t need it to be precisely like IDKFA, like the unique DOOM I stuff. As a result of if I have been to try this, I’d have to return and utterly remix all of DOOM I stuff, which I used to be like, “No, that needs to be preserved. Folks know what that’s.” So you may’t contact that. That’s already achieved. So I believed, “Okay, properly what if I simply gave them how I might do DOOM II proper now?” Which is strictly what it’s. All that stuff is like, “Yeah, f*** yeah.” These are the precise choices that I might make with synths, with guitars, with drums. I feel the whole lot slams. I feel it sounds nice. So it’s only a image from 2011, 2012 with the unique IDKFA. It obtained formally launched in 2016, nevertheless it began engaged on it way back to again. So it’s an image of the place I used to be as a musician, that far again. After which this one is an image of 2024. So that you get it’s sort of like a time capsule.
TA: Was The Healer Stalks one of many new songs as a result of it undoubtedly appears like fashionable Andrew Hulshult?
AH: Yeah, that was the second written. I feel I virtually went in chronological order doing that complete soundtrack.
TA: You and I’ve each been taking part in DOOM for the reason that 90s. After I began studying guitar and taking part in rather a lot, I began occupied with the DOOM soundtrack and a number of the songs undoubtedly have bits that remind me of different band music like Pantera. Whenever you did IDKFA and simply heard the music basically, what did you consider that and the way does it really feel revisiting a few of these songs now? Stuff like A New Degree and This Love from Pantera immediately spring to thoughts.
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AH: Yeah. A few of that stuff’s fairly shut. Like typically, proper? But it surely’s completely different sufficient the place you’re like, oh, okay. Yeah. However yeah, there’s undoubtedly some inspirations that have been taken from like thrash steel for positive. As a result of I imply, like they at all times talked about Romero having on like Slayer and Metallica and all that stuff like taking part in whereas they have been making the sport. So it solely is smart that they’re like, you understand, hey, make one thing related round this. I don’t know precisely how that story went. I wasn’t there. I used to be like, you understand, I used to be like 4. However that makes full sense in my head. And yeah, going again and listening to them like, yeah, it’s there someplace within the ballpark of it for positive. Like
TA: So after DOOM II, have you ever gotten individuals saying, when are we getting an IDKFA model of Quake and stuff? Since you did one music, proper?
AH: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did the theme. I feel I did that only for enjoyable. And I feel I actually did that as individuals have been, I noticed a bunch of discussion board posts. It was both discussion board posts or Discord about individuals unsure like about me on DUSK of all issues. Prefer it wasn’t even like a totally introduced recreation, however they have been like, “I’m unsure Andrew”. And I used to be like, OK, you understand what? I used to be like, f*** you. I’ll simply remake the Quake theme. And then you definitely’ll see if I’m the correct particular person for the f***ing job. laughs And so I put that out and other people have been like, oh, and I keep in mind like a bunch of the feedback have been like, oh yeah, okay, he can work on DUSK.
TA: Do you take heed to that soundtrack usually? The unique Quake?
AH: Oh, man. I don’t take heed to it. Take heed to it. However like each time I’m going fireplace up Quake, which is about like as soon as twice a 12 months. A bit of greater than that if I’m taking part in multiplayer with pals. That’s the factor I stay up for probably the most apart from like the extent design is the soundtrack simply because it’s so on the market. Reznor did such a superb job on that. It’s unbelievable. God, I want it’s a pipe dream, however I’d like to work with him on one thing and Atticus Ross on one thing in some unspecified time in the future. That will be loopy. However they’re like means up there, you understand.
TA: Their film soundtracks are superb. I’ve truly been watching a number of the films simply because they’ve achieved the music as a result of I feel the audio design in The Social Community is unbelievable. I feel they did just like the latest Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles factor, which I nonetheless want to look at.
AH: It’s so cool when artists step out of their consolation zone like that, the place it’s such as you’re recognized for such as you’re offended and miserable music after which it’s like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. It’s like now I’m . Yeah.
TA: Going again to your music, we coated Blood Swamps being the preferred music which individuals convey up after they meet you and stuff. I noticed this interview with Closing Fantasy 14’s composer Masayoshi Soken who was requested a couple of music which he actually favored, however nobody truly brings up, and that he thinks deserves extra consideration. He stated Recreation Idea. I wish to know what’s that for Andrew Hulshult.
AH: Splitting Time. Like everytime you introduced that up, I used to be like, oh yeah, from the AMID EVIL DLC. I imply prefer it’s properly it’s DLC. So like by nature, DLC doesn’t get as a lot consideration, you understand. However just like the AMID EVIL DLC altogether earlier than I discuss concerning the music, the DLC is unbelievable. Like that’s my that’s one among my favourite issues I’ve labored on like in latest reminiscence. Like all of the music’s nice. Prefer it was , it was a pleasure to place all of it collectively. All of the sound design, all of the traps and the whole lot. It’s simply an unbelievable DLC. In the event you don’t have it, it is best to go get it. That’s not me shilling and simply oh go purchase the sport. Prefer it’s f***ing superior. They did an unbelievable job.
TA: Everybody can buy that recreation and DLC.
AH: Nicely, I don’t wish to appear to be a shill. In the event you prefer it, you prefer it. Like in the event you don’t, in the event you don’t dig it, don’t purchase it. You realize we’re not not right here to love, you understand try to promote a bunch of stuff.
However like splitting time ending up that piece of music. It felt like an actual second the place I don’t know. I felt like sort of a shift as an artist the place I used to be. I used to be far more snug with quite a lot of the extra aggressive sound design parts being combined in with compositions and discovering methods to make them gel higher. And the whole lot actually got here collectively on that observe and out every time midway by means of I used to be like, that is the ultimate boss observe. I used to be like I don’t care what you’re designing. I’m like, that is the ultimate boss observe. And you understand, two seconds after they began listening to it, they’re like, oh yeah, that is the ultimate boss observe. We hadn’t even made the character but. I used to be similar to, right here it’s. That one hung round for a very long time. And yeah, that’s I really feel like that music could be very a lot a superb indicator of the place I’m musically proper now.
TA: Now let’s get a bit into the weeds. Let’s discuss your present guitar setup, your pedals, your amps, string gauge, pickups, I wish to know no matter you’re utilizing.
AH: So the guitar I’m utilizing probably the most is a Caparison Dellinger 7. I truly simply had a pickup swap on it the place I put some Seymour Duncans. I feel I put an SH5 within the bridge and an SH2 within the neck on this one. Particularly as a result of the SH5 on it has a very fascinating factor the place it doesn’t emphasize the low mids an entire bunch however they nonetheless reduce by means of rather well. So everytime you’re sitting there and like, you understand, like chugging on stuff and it’s important to observe that 4 instances, it simply sits rather a lot higher within the combine than in the event you have been to only use like inventory pickups. There’s nothing improper with Caparison inventory pickups. They’re nice. They’re tremendous, tremendous punchy. However for my mixing model I simply, I do know what I need by way of pickups so I simply, I swap these out.
I additionally did the identical factor truly final week with the 8 string. It is a Caparison Brocken 8 string. I don’t suppose they make this anymore. I swapped out the pickups on this one as properly to a gosh, what’s it? It’s Duncan. They’re actually, actually well-known 8 string pickups by Duncan. And I can’t keep in mind what they’re referred to as now.
TA: I didn’t know Seymour Duncan even had 8 string pickups.
AH: They do 8 and like, I used to be initially going to get some Fishman Fluences for it as a result of they appear like they’d maintain the highest finish within the midrange somewhat bit higher however after I don’t know, I’ve simply at all times been a Seymour Duncan man. And after discovering a pair that I actually favored at a store referred to as Tone Store up the road from me. I used to be like, man, I actually wish to put these in my 8 string and so they have a tech there that’s simply unbelievable at what he does with all my guitars. So I used to be similar to, hey, order these and I’ll simply go away the guitar with you and like per week later they got here again and I used to be like, yeah, that’s precisely what I needed, sounds unbelievable.
I’ve obtained my Caparison 7 and eight, and I nonetheless have all of the guitars that I’ve had over time for probably the most half. I’ve obtained one other Schecter 8 string right here that may be a actually cool colour. It’s tremendous neat, like, it truly modifications from blue to purple.
TA: I feel it’s referred to as Prism or one thing like that. John Petrucci has one thing like that on one among his guitars.
AH: However yeah, this one has just like the EMGs in it and it’s a cool guitar. It nonetheless performs nice. Like, I nonetheless prefer it. However let me present you one thing that’s truly fairly candy. So I nonetheless have, I purchased this in like 2004. And I nonetheless have it. That is the guitar that I truly wrote all of IDKFA or most of it on and I wrote all of, I tracked all of Rides of the Triad with. It’s only a Schecter C6. It’s like simply inventory. It even nonetheless has the plastic within the again which is loopy. However yeah, that is like, I nonetheless have this guitar. I used to be like I used to be so near going as much as id, like which is simply on the road for me and being like after IDKFA was completed, I virtually was similar to, right here, you guys, you want this. You realize, like, maintain on to this or one thing. Like that is the one. However like, I don’t know. It’s not like a mainline DOOM recreation, you understand? Like, it needs to be one thing like a mainline recreation the place I’d be like, I wrote this on this guitar right here. You realize, if you would like this, it feels prefer it belongs to you. And likewise, a part of me is like, no, don’t try this. Like, dangle on to it.
TA: Okay now string gauges.
AH: For string gauges, 10 to 59 on 7 strings. And on 8 strings, I feel it’s 10 to 65. After which usually on 6 strings, I similar to 10 to 46.
TA: Do you utilize D’Addario strings? I exploit them largely.
AH: I exploit D’Addario for probably the most half, however I bounce backwards and forwards typically to Ernie Ball.
TA: What about your amp setup and your pedals and stuff like that?
AH: So amps, I’ve offered virtually each amp I’ve ever owned. I had a JC-120. I had a few these Crate Blue Voodoos means again within the day. Those that have been like, yeah, those that have been, have been principally copies of these Ampeg tube amps that they made a very long time in the past. I had a Valve State 8100. I had a bunch of amps and a bunch of VHT cupboards as properly too. And I offered all of them years in the past. I’ve actually simply been like working contained in the field for probably the most half with like neural DSP plugins into an RME interface and I additionally went so far as getting one among these lately, which is a Neural DSP Quad Cortex. So principally that is all of their plugins constructed into like a very nice processor. However for a mission I’m engaged on lately they have been like, hey you want an amp. And I used to be like, yeah, you’re most likely proper. I do want an amp. So I went and acquired this and I plug it into two 100 watt Seymour Duncan energy phases. Okay.
They’re like, they’re these little tiny like 100 watt energy amplifiers. They’re strong state energy amplifiers. And I run the stereo out from that factor into the left and proper facet of these and people go into two Engel 2×12 cupboards. Which, okay, Engel 2×12 cupboards are superior. Ever since I heard a Rammstein document that used them I at all times needed to seize one as a result of I used to be like, god, these issues sound large.
TA: I wasn’t positive about this as a result of a buddy of mine stated he was positive AMID EVIL was recorded on an Axe FX Extremely.
AH: Any guitar stuff I’ve achieved has used both Native Devices Guitar Rig from means again within the day. Like IDKFA used a ton of Native Devices Guitar Rig 5 and Guitar Rig 4. However just about the whole lot since DUSK has used Neural DSP for guitar work. It’s simply me plugging straight into my RME UFX and typically I’ll use pedals going into it just like the Unique BB Preamp however more often than not it’s only a dry DI sign getting manipulated contained in the field.
So, those that obtained probably the most use on DUSK have been the Moogerfooger low move filter. Consider it or not, like anytime you hear the sound of one thing changing into sort of lo-fi or something. It was at all times run by means of this filter. It was fairly cool. However the factor I like about it probably the most is the drive circuit on it. Like I don’t even prefer it that a lot as like a filter filter. The drive part on it’s simply so aggressive that it’s a very fascinating sound and like that sound that you just hear on the DUSK soundtrack which is like the entire actually excessive excessive finish that’s like actually excessive power. It’s virtually just like the 9 Inch Nails stuff. A ton of that comes simply from driving the entrance finish of this factor. And identical means with the Fulltone Catalyst. However yeah, it’s just some of them. I feel there’s yet another that I exploit rather a lot. I don’t suppose I’ve it right here. It’s the ZVEX Fuzz Manufacturing unit which is simply an insane sounding pedal. It simply appears like rubbish. And that’s why I prefer it. It simply appears like you might be destroying a sign which is ideal. I’m cool. That sounds cool. That’s a fantastic impact. I like that.
TA: You’ve achieved rather a lot in your profession to date with recognizable music. As a musician, how have you ever been studying to enhance your personal abilities like programming drums, software program, and the way do you steadiness doing that whilst you have quite a lot of people who wish to work with you on new tasks?
AH: Day-after-day is rather like I don’t know. In the event you’re not educating your self one thing every single day, that is my practice of thought. If I’m not making an attempt to sound higher in my very own head, no matter I feel is healthier, I’m losing my time. So if I really feel just like the drum equipment I’ve used like two or 3 times on two to a few completely different data, if I’m like that feels stale. If I then go if it feels stale and I do know the ends and outs of it and how one can make it sound good then I would like to vary that drum equipment. I would like to seek out one thing completely different and work with it and see if I can get some completely different sounds out of it. So I’ll change devices and simply purposefully put myself in positions the place I don’t know the place I’m at or what sounds good with it simply in order that I can discover my means out of it.
It’s sort of like limiting your self, like placing your self in a field that’s actually vital as an artist to just be sure you are working inside a sure scope of issues and going hey, you understand, right here’s one thing that’s utterly unfamiliar, get used to it and that is what it’s important to work with. So, yeah, like I don’t know, simply consistently difficult myself is a part of who I’m for probably the most half. So, it’s simply the way it at all times goes.
TA: I’m glad you introduced that particular bit up as a result of in one other interview of yours you talked about how as soon as you bought to your thirties a very powerful factor grew to become getting good sleep which lots of people take without any consideration of their twenties. So my query is that making an attempt to have a routine is essential even in the event you can’t follow it 100%. What does a day in your life appear to be proper now?
AH: A day proper now appears like about, a typical day is about wherever between 6 to 7 hours of sleep which is about what I would like I’ve came upon, prefer it’s like someplace round there, typically 8 after which randomly I’ll have days the place it’s like, oh you want like 11 hours I don’t know why, however I really feel high-quality waking up utterly recharged with like 6 and a half to 7 and a half hours of sleep. So what I’ll do each morning is I’ll get up, I’ll go take a bathe instantly, like that’s the one means I can begin my day is like I really feel like I’ve obtained to it appears like I’m washing off yesterday I don’t know the way else to elucidate that after which I gotta have a espresso after which I gotta begin writing issues on a whiteboard that’s proper over beside me to the left as a result of in any other case I’m simply gonna spin my wheels all day lengthy and suppose, oh I ought to do that, I ought to try this, I’ll be occupied with the whole lot I must do after which by no means truly do something. I don’t know if that’s ADD, ADHD or no matter that’s undiagnosed, I’m positive it’s to some extent which I’ll get to that in some unspecified time in the future however till then I’ve the whiteboard and so long as I write stuff down on it on what I wish to try this day, I’ll knock all of it out, each single piece of it. However what’s tremendous vital for me to do is simply plan out the day early on after which the whole lot simply involves it afterwards.
The opposite factor that’s sort of new for me too is round like 4 o’clock usually I’ll now try to do, this has been throughout the final 3.5 months, I’ll try to do about 20 to half-hour of cardio. Simply because I really feel like for some motive elevating my coronary heart price actually takes me from hey I may focus earlier than to now I’m tremendous laser targeted and might get by means of no matter I must and it additionally places me in a significantly better temper if I’m having a shit day.
TA: You’ve beforehand talked about that you just love taking part in Cities Skylines. Did you play Cities Skylines 2?
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AH: Yeah, however you understand like I haven’t gone again to it but. I must attempt it once more in some unspecified time in the future. However oh boy prefer it wanted some extra time within the oven every time I attempted it. Like no offense to them. I used to be similar to wow.
TA: I imply you most likely tried it on like your correct gaming PC. I similar to to play Steam video games on a Steam Deck and I may get it at 5 fps or one thing after a little bit of taking part in.
AH: Even with the 3080 I feel I used to be at factors I used to be sitting there at like 35 frames a second. I’m like actually? With the 3080? That is the place we’re at huh? Okay.
TA: Do you continue to play Hunt: Showdown and did you attempt the brand new Hunt: Showdown 1896 replace?
AH: Yeah. They’d some actually fascinating selections with their UI that they simply pushed with this one which lots of people aren’t in favor of. I’m getting somewhat extra used to it as time goes on. However man there are some issues they should hammer out with it. However yeah I nonetheless play that like a pair instances per week with my buddies in New Blood. Like with Dylan who’s engaged on Gloomwood. I’ll play it with David now and again. I’ll play it with Mason who’s the developer on Religion. Like we’re all, similar to all of us simply hang around. We’re all simply pals. So Leon, me and Leon play it I feel probably the most. Leon’s the lead on AMID EVIL. However yeah like New Zealand and America taking part in a web based fps recreation is a wild factor however now we have a good time doing it.
TA: Earlier than we wrap up, I wish to know your favourite bands and artists proper now out and in of video video games.
AH: I’m fairly boring on this one to be trustworthy with you. I must department out somewhat extra. Favourite bands exterior of video video games proper now like for positive and so they’ve sat there for some time is Gojira. I actually like their mixing. I like how tight they’re dwell. I like their selections on composition. I don’t really feel like they write a nasty music. I may throw out the plain ones. Metallica is one other one simply because James Hetfield’s proper hand is like what impressed me to play guitar. Like how briskly you are able to do these issues is loopy.
Exterior of or in video video games I’d nonetheless say I nonetheless suppose and it’s going to be a bizarre selection since you’re like properly you write all this aggressive music. What’s Jesper Kyd? That man is rather like nice on the whole lot he touches and the whole lot he touches is at all times distinctive. However I at all times return to his early stuff just like the Hitman franchise as a result of it’s simply so unusual and prefer it actually fits these early video games rather well. In the event you take heed to it exterior of it, it appears like a very bizarre chilly sort of soundtrack. Even from the very first recreation which has quite a lot of fascinating issues like virtually drum and bass selections. It nonetheless appears like a chilly entrance.
You realize, like a Hitman. And I at all times simply discover that stuff fascinating. How he was in a position to take so many alternative genres of music between all these video games and nonetheless make them match appropriately for that character. So yeah and I feel he labored on the Darktide stuff extra lately which I would like to offer a take heed to. Everyone’s advised me that’s unbelievable however I don’t know I used to be knee deep in like 4 lively developments every time that recreation got here out. So I simply haven’t given it an opportunity.
TA: Hypothetical state of affairs, in the event you had no time or finances constraints, in the event you may compose for any single recreation and any single film which might you choose?
AH: So let’s see for any recreation if it had the correct path I’d actually prefer to take a shot at like a Duke recreation. As a result of I really feel like that’s an IP that might be introduced again if it’s introduced again in the correct means. And it’s important to suppose that’s actually going to be dictated by whoever the artistic manufacturing is on the time. So if it was achieved in the correct means I’d like to step into that.
Both that or I’m going to throw one other one out to you. I’d like to work on Minecraft. Similar to relax you understand. Like simply make one thing that’s utterly chill. So these are utterly two reverse sides of the spectrum.
However so far as a film, man, that’s a fantastic query. Let me give it some thought for only a second. Man on Hearth. Like I like Denzel Washington’s work as primary: as an motion hero I feel he’s nice. However quantity two every time he is ready to have sufficient time to place drama into issues. And like both I don’t know the way else to elucidate it aside from he does a f***ing loopy improbable job.
Both Man on Hearth or American Gangster. A kind of two soundtracks I feel I may do could be nice to work on. As a result of there’s so many alternative feelings between each of these movies. It’s a giant curler coaster that doesn’t go up and down as soon as. It goes up and down and does like a loop. And like you understand, it takes you facet to facet. Like each of these movies do that actually properly.
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TA: You might have quite a lot of bands you’ve been listening to for a very long time like Metallica. What are your ideas on their latest or new albums?
AH: I can discover issues I like on just like the data that they put out as a result of like I’m a die arduous. Even with this final Megadeth document. I may nonetheless discover stuff that I like I can chew on. No drawback. Completely. However you understand these guys aren’t going to write down like one other Grasp of Puppets. That comes round as soon as in a lifetime. You realize what I imply? And so they struck it 4 instances. Like with Kill ‘Em All, Experience the Lightning, Grasp of Puppets and …And Justice for All. So prefer to even simply get that’s loopy. However I do discover issues that I like on all their newer stuff. Like I feel What was the 2016 document that that they had? Hardwired to Self Destruct. Yeah I feel that that truly had some actual moments of actually actually good writing on it.
Particularly the final observe. I felt like Hardwired was a fantastic observe. However I additionally thought Moth into the Flame was written tremendous properly. There’s a handful of simply actually actually actually good writing on that document. On 72 Seasons, there’s nonetheless a handful that I actually like. However they don’t sync as a lot for me. And I’m unsure if it’s as a result of I’m on the lookout for one thing sooner or not. Which that’s simply not the place they’re at in the mean time. That’s not what they’re writing. And that’s okay. I’ll say the final observe on that document I really feel like is ideal. It’s so good. I can’t keep in mind what it’s referred to as off the highest of my head in the mean time. I’m horrible with music names typically. It’s loopy. It’s like 11 minutes and it appears like a 5 minute and 30 second music. I keep in mind listening to it the primary time. I used to be like gosh. There’s a lot emotion thrown into this music that it’s only a pleasure to take heed to. I find it irresistible after I can inform that somebody actually dumped all their feelings onto one thing. That’s when it actually strikes a chord for me.
However yeah even the final stuff from Slayer, there’s issues that I can discover that I get pleasure from. however I do know I’m not going to get the revolutionary document that we had rising up. That’s okay. I’m simply glad they’re nonetheless making music. And it’s nonetheless fairly sick.
TA: What’s probably the most random piece of music memorabilia that you just’ve held onto for a very long time?
AH: I had a buddy that I labored with a very long time in the past who fell on arduous instances at one level and he was pals and and like labored with Pantera for a very long time. And he was like man he’s like I’m making an attempt to do away with these things I’m like why don’t you simply maintain on to it and like like right here’s right here’s you understand right here’s some money in the event you want some money to get by. He’s like no no no he’s such as you maintain on to it simply pay me for it. I used to be like okay so I’ve obtained this vinyl of the Nice Southern Trendkill that’s one of many unique vinyl releases, however I even have a plaque that got here prefer it was given to one among their both their sound or their lighting crew at one level and it’s like for the tour in Japan for the Nice Southern Trendkill that very same time. And I used to be like the place did you get this you understand like what the hell. And he’s like yeah we simply you understand had him and I knew the man and he had like 5 – 6 of them that they gave him accidentally so he gave me one. I used to be like oh okay all proper. So I’ve each of these issues in my closet they’ve frolicked with me for like gosh I wish to say 15 16 17 years now however these outdated ones won’t ever go away.
Some individuals preserve costly booze in a decanter. Teah and I preserve handmade chilly brew espresso. pic.twitter.com/7DJlgWcjaB
— Andrew Hulshult (@AndrewHulshult) October 10, 2020
TA: Okay for my final query, how do you want your espresso? I normally ask this on the finish, however I keep in mind an outdated Tweet of yours (linked above) made me much more inquisitive about your reply.
AH: Yeah man I just like the chilly brew stuff. I liked scorching espresso ceaselessly however like chilly brew I don’t know the longer I’m going the simpler it’s to only sit on a desk and sip on. I don’t need to be like that’s scorching. I can simply be like no we’re simply getting the entire caffeine all of sudden if I wish to. So chilly brew espresso. Chilly brew black.
I’d prefer to thank Andrew Hulshult for his time and assist with this interview over the previous couple of weeks.
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